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- <text id=92TT0818>
- <title>
- Apr. 13, 1992: Canada:Liberty with a Difference
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- <history>
- TIME--The Weekly Newsmagazine--1992
- Apr. 13, 1992 Campus of the Future
- </history>
- <article>
- <source>Time Magazine</source>
- <hdr>
- WORLD, Page 38
- CANADA
- Liberty with a Difference
- </hdr>
- <body>
- <p>Separatist leader Jacques Parizeau says Quebec is finally
- prepared to go its own way
- </p>
- <p>By Michael S. Serrill and Jacques Parizeau
- </p>
- <p> Q. The people of Quebec are scheduled to vote next Oct. 26
- on whether to declare independence from English-speaking
- Canada. What is the level of support for sovereignty in the
- province now?
- </p>
- <p> A. Depending on how you put the question, you'll get
- anything from 52% to 62%. Considering that about 80% to 85% of
- English-speaking Quebecois [about 15% of the population]
- always say no to anything, you see 60% to 70% support among
- French-speaking people.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Twelve years ago, 60% rejected a similar proposition.
- Then came the Meech Lake Accord, which would have given Quebec
- a measure of autonomy. But that was rejected by
- English-speaking Canada. What has gone on emotionally within the
- minds of Quebecois to make a majority say yes today when they
- said no a decade ago?
- </p>
- <p> A. Anger at being despised during the Meech episode. A
- little shame at being frightened in the past by simpleminded
- arguments--old age pensions won't be paid and that sort of
- thing. Anger at seeing Ontarians wiping their feet on the Quebec
- flag.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Federal officials are meeting in Ottawa to try to patch
- together a new agreement on Quebec's status. Could they
- conceivably come up with something you could buy?
- </p>
- <p> A. I can't see it. After so many efforts, including Meech
- Lake, all they're doing is tinkering with more of this, more of
- that. It's byzantine, absolutely byzantine.
- </p>
- <p> Q. But you do carefully use the word sovereignty, rather
- than independence, so there must be some middle ground.
- </p>
- <p> A. You see, sovereignty as a word has been a marketing
- trademark of the Parti Quebecois for 20 years because the word
- independence used to be somewhat frightening. I'm not going to
- change the logo. Does sovereignty have the same meaning
- [today] as independence? Of course it does.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Sovereignty normally means an independent monetary
- system, separate armed forces and an independent diplomatic
- service. Would that be true of the proposed sovereign Quebec?
- </p>
- <p> A. After a lot of discussion, everyone in Quebec defines
- sovereignty the same way. It means all our taxes, all our laws,
- all our treaties. Does it mean a Quebec army? Indeed it does.
- A diplomatic service? Of course. Concerning the currency, I have
- never opposed a Quebec currency. But I seem to be one of the few
- who don't. People say it will collapse in three weeks. So this
- time I say we keep the Canadian currency.
- </p>
- <p> Politicians [in English-speaking Canada] get red in the
- face and say Parizeau can't do this. But Quebecois own about a
- quarter of the money supply. If they want to keep the Canadian
- dollar as legal currency, nothing can prevent them.
- </p>
- <p> Q. But if you can't control the currency, you can't
- control monetary policy and you lose control of your economy.
- </p>
- <p> A. Oh yes, you do control quite a bit of your economy. But
- not monetary policy. And what exactly is the project in Western
- Europe at the present time? A central bank that is quite free of
- any government intervention. We're probably going to see
- something in the Pacific on the same order. As for North
- America, I'm sure down the road there is going to be one central
- bank.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What do you perceive Washington's attitude toward
- sovereignty to be?
- </p>
- <p> A. I think Washington doesn't like the idea very much. But
- Washington realizes it has to be very, very careful on this
- continent. If there is one place where democracy must run fully,
- it is here. Therefore, if Quebecois want to become a sovereign
- nation, they will. It is a matter for the Canadians and
- Quebecois to settle among themselves.
- </p>
- <p> Q. You say that the citizens of Quebec are one people. But
- the Cree and other native peoples in the north of Quebec say
- they too are separate societies deserving of their own nation.
- </p>
- <p> A. In 1985 the Quebec government declared these people--the Cree, the Mohawk, the Huron, the Algonquin and others--distinct nations, a
- within Quebec's boundaries. But if you think that 20,000 Cree
- and Inuit are going to leave Quebec and take two-thirds of its
- territory, no way.
- </p>
- <p> Q. How would a free Quebec deal with the mix of English
- and French?
- </p>
- <p> A. Well, we have been committed since the notorious--some would say--bill of 1977 [declaring French to be
- Quebec's official language] to set up a society that functions
- in French. Does that mean Quebecois should not learn English?
- By God, I'll boot the rear end of anyone who can't speak
- English. In our day and times, a small people like us must speak
- English.
- </p>
- <p> Q. What happens if you get another reversal and the answer
- to sovereignty in October is no?
- </p>
- <p> A. Then obviously I failed. I will retire; somebody else
- takes it up.
- </p>
- <p> Q. Would the issue be dead?
- </p>
- <p> A. No. When something as intoxicating as independence is
- in the minds of people to the extent of 40%, 50%, 60%, it never
- dies. All [a defeat] implies is that the leaders were no
- good, that they goofed somewhere, that they have to be replaced.
- But at that level of support, nothing vanishes.
- </p>
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- </article>
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